Daniel Drezner is on the line this week! I speak to the academic and Washington Post writer about his career and life in and out of academia. He’s made a career arguing (and proving in peer-reviewed fashion) counter-intuitive takes on conventional foreign policy wisdoms. Our conversation kicks off with a discussion of the new BRICS Development Bank and his book about how international institutions responded to the 2008 financial crisis. We then turn to a discussion of his life and career, with interesting diversions along the way.